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PorukaPoslao: Pon Nov 01, 2010 3:53 pm    Naslov: Toyota Corolla 2001 D4D Odgovoriti sa citatom

Zdravo svima!

U maju sam uzeo ovu Toyotu koja izmedju ostalog poseduje Webasto ili konkretno HYDRONIC ne znam sada tacno koji model ali cu da slikam pa cu postovati.

Posto krece zima jel imao neko sikustva sa ovim uredjajem kako se koristi?

U kabini imam posebno dugme za ukljucenje.

Koliko znam o Webastu on koristi naftu koju sagoreva i tako zagreva tecnost za hladjenje a da motor ne radi.

Video sam instlaciju i HYDRONIC uredjaj ulaze cevi za vodu i jedna za naftu.

Pokusao sam bez rada motora i ne zagreva, mozda radi samo kada radi motor, ali na leru kada sam motor ne moze da postigne da zagreje tecnost za hladajenje (grejanja).
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Radi se o grijacu slicnom "Webastu", s time da nije u funkciji dok se ne pokrene motor. Radi na taj nacin sto zagrijava rashladnu tecnost motora, tako sto sagorjeva gorivo (dizel). Zagrijavanjem rashladne tecnosti motor brze dostize radnu temperaturu, i samim tim zagrijavanje putnickog prostora se postize brze. Stvar je vrlo dobra, snaga uredjaja je 5 ili 5,5 kW, neznam sada tacno. Na Aurisu se ugradjuje tip Eberspaecher Hydronic, vjerovatno i u Koroli. Dugme se zove PWR Heat (barem kod mene na Aurisu). Moze da radi i pri vecim temperaturama, ako se zeli da motor brze dostigne radnu temperaturu, ali i nema potrebe bas se raubuje grijac kada je vec toplo. Evo i link gdje se vidi kako funkcionise i ostali detalji.
http://www.eberspaecher.com/servlet/PB/menu/1004069_l2/index.html
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Bole hvala na infu.

Da li on radi samo kada se aktivira dugmetom ili radi i bez toga kada je hladno?

Primetio sam da se motor zagreje vrlo brzo pa sam mislio da se pali ovaj uredjaj automacki i bez pritiskanja dugmeta.

Pozdrav

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Pretpostavljam da govorite o sistemu vezanom za dugme "Power heater" na instrumentnoj tabli. Ovo dugme, pod uslovom da su ispunjeni neki uslovi (npr. temperatura rashladne tečnosti niska, kao i spoljna temperatura itd.), uključuje dodatni grejač (kod Toyote obično marke Eberspacher), koji dodatno zagreva rashladnu tečnost, da se ona brže zagreje, a posledično može doči i do bržeg duvanja toplog vazduha u putničku kabinu.

Sistem radi samo kod upaljenog motora, i samostalno se isključuje, kad se rashladna tečnost zagreje na određenu temperaturu (obično >60oC).
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Na dugmetu ne pise nista samo su nacrtane strelice odozdo na gore koje idu, grubo receno.

Znaci ovaj urejdaj radi samo kada se ukljuci na dugme, a ne koristi se "automacki"
Ovo pitam jer sam primetio da se motor dosta brzo greje pa sam mislio da je to do tog uredjaja.
Mozda je to brzo zagrerevanje uobicajeno za d4d motor.

Videcemo kada krenu minusi kako ce biti.

Dusan
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Da, i kod Aurisa je takav simbol, i pored toga pise "PWR Heat", uglavnom uredjaj se ne pokrece automatski, nego je potrebno da se ukljuci tim dugmetom. Naravno, kada dostigne odgovarajucu temperaturu rashladne tecnosti iskljucuje se sam, ali kada temperatura rashladne tecnosti padne ponovo se ukljucuje. Ukljucivanjem uredjaja broj obrtaja praznog hoda se sa 800 podize na oko 1000. Dizelasima je potrebno nesto vise vremena da postignu radnu temperaturu (barem onima koje sam ja vozio) nego benzincima, pa se kod njih uredjaj i ugradjuje cesce. Gasenjem motora, gasi se i uredjaj, (ako je ostao ukljucen dugmetom), dok se u istoj situaciji ponovnim pokretanjem motora, pali i uredjaj. Nije preporucljivo da se ucestano ukljucujuje i iskljucuje uredjaj u kratkim intervalima. Ja ga kod velikih hladnoca ukljucim kod jprvog utarnjeg pokretanja motora, sacekam da rashladna tecnost postigne radnu temperaturu i onda ga iskljucim. Uredjaj je prava stvar i sve pohvale Toyoti zbog ugradnje ovakve stvari. U kabini kao posljedica brzog postizanja radne temperature rashladne tecnosti, postaje toplo mnogo brze nego inace. Iz iskustva, mislim da je jedini uslov za koristenje temperatura rashladne tecnosti, palio sam grijac i kada je napolju bilo i +15 stepeni, on zagrije tecnost i iskljuci se. Prosla zima je bila bas zastoka i bas mi je bilo drago da na zestokim minusma cak ispod i -15 imam kako ja to volim da kazem "pecicu".
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Zdravo svima!

Pocela sezona grejanja pa sam malo testirao uredjaj za grejanje.

Primetio sam da kada ga upalim posle jedno 10-tak minuta pocne da se cuje iz dela auta gde je ovaj uredja kao nekakov lupkanje. Otprilike 2 puta u sekundu nekad i brze tak tak tak...

Kada to cujem i iskljucuim na dugme uredjaj za sekund se utisa taj zvuk i nestane. Kada ga ponovo upalim vise se ne cuje.

Sto se brzeg grejanja tice mozda malo se brze greje nego bez.

Da li je ovo ponasanje normalno?

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Sasvim je normalno lupkanje, kuckanje i zvuk ventilatora ovoga grijaca, tako pise i u uputstvu, kao i ispustanje izduvnih gasova. Moguce da je to kod Vas nesto jace nego normalno, sada je to tesko znati dok se ne uporedi sa drugima, ali svakako gore pobrojani zvukovi su normalna pojava pri radu ovog uredjaja.
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Toyota Corolla koju posedujem ima "Webasto" i dobro funkcionise na niskim temperaturama. Motor je 2.0 D4D, i na kratkim relacijama ima dobar efekat. Auto sam kupio 2003. u Nemackoj ( nov), jer je cena u Srbiji bila veca. Mislim da se u Srbiji ( novi automobili) nisu prodavali sa ovim grejacem.

Posto imamo ( supruga ) i Yarisa 1.4D4D 66kw, koji nema pomenuti grejac, slabije se zagreva nego Corolla. Mada moram da priznam da za grad vise volim da vozim Yarisa zbog jako dobrih karakteristika u voznji
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