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Problem sa upravljivoscu i run flat pneumaticic

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PorukaPoslao: Pon Apr 28, 2008 5:37 am    Naslov: Problem sa upravljivoscu i run flat pneumaticic Odgovoriti sa citatom

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Pre 20tak dana kupio sam i montirao na svom vozilu Michelin Run Flat ZP pneumatike 205/55/16

Od tog trenutka volan je poceo drugacije da se ponasa neko ranije, pri malim brzinama -do 45-50km/h.
Kao da automobil "pliva"
Pri vecim i velikom brzinama auto se potpuno normalno ponasa.
Za svaki slucaj uradio sam reglazu trapa i kompletnu proveru prednjeg trapa-sve je ok!!

Moja predostavka je da se zbog vece tezine run flat pneumatika ( oko 40%) u odnosu na standardne pneumatike, doslo do drugacijeg odnosa masa/ugaona brzina pa samim tim i promenila osetljivost upravljaca.

Da li neko moze da mi da savet iu vezi ovoga.

Predpostavljam da jako malo ljudi je uopste vozila i montirala ovakvu vrstu pneumatika.

Hvala
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Zdravo

Pre 20tak dana kupio sam i montirao na svom vozilu Michelin Run Flat ZP pneumatike 205/55/16

Od tog trenutka volan je poceo drugacije da se ponasa neko ranije, pri malim brzinama -do 45-50km/h.
Kao da automobil "pliva"
Pri vecim i velikom brzinama auto se potpuno normalno ponasa.
Za svaki slucaj uradio sam reglazu trapa i kompletnu proveru prednjeg trapa-sve je ok!!

Moja predostavka je da se zbog vece tezine run flat pneumatika ( oko 40%) u odnosu na standardne pneumatike, doslo do drugacijeg odnosa masa/ugaona brzina pa samim tim i promenila osetljivost upravljaca.

Da li neko moze da mi da savet iu vezi ovoga.

Predpostavljam da jako malo ljudi je uopste vozila i montirala ovakvu vrstu pneumatika.

Hvala


Run flat gume zahtevaju posebnu vrstu felni i ne smeju se montirati na standardne felne. Obrnuto može. Dovodite sebe u opasnost!
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Evo odgovora strucnjaka (inace felne su standardne-ne posroje spec. felne za ove pneumatike)

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"Postovani,
Sto se tice drugacijeg ponasanja vaseg vozila - osecaja podloge
to u svakom slucaju zavisi od vrste pneumatika. Run Flat pneumatici
imaju ojacane bocnice sto znaci da je njihova krutost veca no kod
standardnih pneumatika. Samo to daje drugaciji osecaj u voznji. Takodje
ukoliko ovi pneumatici nisu dovoljnoi dobro napumpani dolazi do toga da
je raspored pritisaka na gaznoj povrsini fokusiran na bocne sare
pneumatika, dok je sredina rasterecena - pneumatik se vozi na bocnim
blokovima. Pri vecim brzinama usled centrifugalne sile ova situacija se
menja tako da je raspored pritisaka povoljniji - cela gazna povrsina
naleze na podlogu.
Ovo su moguci uzroci izmene osecaja pri voznji sa novim i RFT
pneumaticima ali nisu jedini.

Moram da napomenem da upotreba RFT pneumatika kod vozila koja
nemaju senzor pritiska u pneumaticima nije preporucljiva jer u slucaju
gubitka pritiska u pneumaticima nemate osecaj da je pnaumatik bez
pritiska sto vas moze prevariti i pri ulasku u krivinu sa vecom brzinom
moze doci do svlacenja pneumatika sa naplatka, sto bi moglo da dovede do
daljih problema.

Nadam se da sam vam unekoliko pomogao.


Best regards/S postovanjem
Goran Kocovski
Country Manager - Serbia, Montenegro
Bridgestone Austria GmbH"


Pozdrav

Peda
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Evo odgovora strucnjaka (inace felne su standardne-ne posroje spec. felne za ove pneumatike)

CITIRAM E-MAIL

"Postovani,
Sto se tice drugacijeg ponasanja vaseg vozila - osecaja podloge
to u svakom slucaju zavisi od vrste pneumatika. Run Flat pneumatici
imaju ojacane bocnice sto znaci da je njihova krutost veca no kod
standardnih pneumatika. Samo to daje drugaciji osecaj u voznji. Takodje
ukoliko ovi pneumatici nisu dovoljnoi dobro napumpani dolazi do toga da
je raspored pritisaka na gaznoj povrsini fokusiran na bocne sare
pneumatika, dok je sredina rasterecena - pneumatik se vozi na bocnim
blokovima. Pri vecim brzinama usled centrifugalne sile ova situacija se
menja tako da je raspored pritisaka povoljniji - cela gazna povrsina
naleze na podlogu.
Ovo su moguci uzroci izmene osecaja pri voznji sa novim i RFT
pneumaticima ali nisu jedini.

Moram da napomenem da upotreba RFT pneumatika kod vozila koja
nemaju senzor pritiska u pneumaticima nije preporucljiva jer u slucaju
gubitka pritiska u pneumaticima nemate osecaj da je pnaumatik bez
pritiska sto vas moze prevariti i pri ulasku u krivinu sa vecom brzinom
moze doci do svlacenja pneumatika sa naplatka, sto bi moglo da dovede do
daljih problema.

Nadam se da sam vam unekoliko pomogao.


Best regards/S postovanjem
Goran Kocovski
Country Manager - Serbia, Montenegro
Bridgestone Austria GmbH"


Pozdrav

Peda


Kolega jeste upravu, ali to znači da je Bridgestone uspeo da proizvede RFT za standardnu felnu. Dok sam radio za prošli brend (neću reći koji Smile išle su posebne felne za njihove RFT. Toyota ih ne koristi osim za RAV4 DCAT ali to je drugi sistem sa specijalnim prstenom.
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